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S2000 & Group N, The future of rallying? -
22nd Dec 07, 21:43
According to swedish media FIA has anounced on friday that S2000 and group N will take over from 2011, what tuning measures that will be aplied on the S2000 will be concluded on the next meeting in march, it's not expected to include using a turbocharger
 http://www.bilsportborsen.se/news.php?id=1586 Christian Loriaux sertanly don't think so do you? http://www.crash.net/radioplayer/rad...ioURL=4043.wma Suzuki must be pretty mad wasting all that money on a car worthless in a few years.
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22nd Dec 07, 21:48
Suzuki ? Come on, 2008-2009-2010 ... 3 (!) complete years and you say they are wasting something
 Anyway S2000 seems good, nice sound, and probably nice speed in a couple of years ...
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22nd Dec 07, 21:49
SUBARUNORWAY1: How much trustable is that server?
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22nd Dec 07, 21:56
Well it depends on how good they use those three years, S2000 was a dead end from the start, were did the cheap car go?
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22nd Dec 07, 21:59
The source is Martin Holmes so i don't think it gets more trustable than that, but can't find it anywere else though.
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22nd Dec 07, 22:17
This isnt new. FIA is talking about this date last two years...
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22nd Dec 07, 22:40
At least they are cheaper than WRC don't you think  ? Plus many other manu could enter WRC because they won't be so behind like now (look at Suzuki...). Opposite, they are probably ahead ! Think about FIAT, Peugeot, VW-Skoda, MG, etc.
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22nd Dec 07, 22:56
No but it's confirmed
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22nd Dec 07, 23:05
Some great cars there, ya right 
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23rd Dec 07, 00:32
I'll bet the FIA changes their minds 4 or 5 more times....
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23rd Dec 07, 00:34
S2000 I can understand. It offers a chance to get back to something approaching basic Group A regs, thus allowing a wide variety of cars to be competitive. But Group N? Who on earth thinks that Group N cars make exciting, or even mildly interesting, viewing?
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23rd Dec 07, 00:42
Punto S2000 rules (I love that sound too !)  Also the Pug S2000 is a great car, funny to watch already now. Think about next years... when the speed bar will be raised. It would be bad if Ford Citroen Subaru Suzuki won't develop a S2000 and quit. Then the change is not good. But all of these 4 plus the new manus, more cars, better Gr. N sucks I must agree.
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23rd Dec 07, 08:23
And that allows FIAT to enter WRC world without developping a current spec. WRC car !!
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23rd Dec 07, 08:23
S2000 sucks really hard...
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23rd Dec 07, 09:23
Been to Condroz 06 and 07? 2007 was far better!
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23rd Dec 07, 10:37
I love S2000, just hope they find a way to give a bit more torque, cause that would make them even better!
@Corny: been to both, have to say: both were good. But 2006 was a dream which is almost impossible to remake in Belgium...
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23rd Dec 07, 11:13
So we have few years time to experience the majestity and brutal performance of wrc-cars. I suspect that I will not go to spectate for group N likes cars.
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23rd Dec 07, 11:23
Makes me think of '87... From Gr B to Gr A. Well, it wasn't that bad!
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23rd Dec 07, 11:27
Really, I would say it was quite bad, took long time for me to get used to group A, but the good thing now is that the teams has time to adapt.
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23rd Dec 07, 11:30
Why cant we have 2.5L N/A engines and 4 WD (like Andy Burton's home built Peugeot in UK) for those that dont know this car look hear http://www.peugeot-cosworth.co.uk/ or www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkasV_YVvTQ
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